Monday, June 8, 2015

pushbot

Two questions. In the below situation should I be reshoving vs 6 bb stack open shove from CO and should I open shove vs BB?  We are slightly above the '10 bb' threshold but not if you adjust for antes.  I think this is around the bubble as well, FWIW.  My suspicious is that MingRey will be shoving wide.  We're actually a dog vs a 40% shoving range.  Our opponent has to be shoving 60% before we're a % favourite.  However there is basically 3600 extra in the pot (our 625, ur opponents 625, the 1250 from the BB and the antes) so we're getting around 1.5:1 and have the direct odds vs a tight 20% shoving range (simulations below).  Unfortunately some % of the time BB will wake up with a big hand and we're a huge dog.  I expect him to call a lot of the hands that have us crushed, although maybe something like A8 or 66 will find a fold vs shove reshove (these hands are almost certainly calling if we open jam the SB, indeed some hands like KQ or 22 might call).  Actually I expect our opponent to be jamming more like 50% given his aggressive statistics and the fact that this is proper play at this stack size.  So I do think it's worth the risk to over jam vs the short stacks push.







Hold'em Simulation ? 
398,966,832 trials (Exhaustive)
HandEquityWinsTies
As4h40.99%151,195,31124,671,138
20%59.01%223,100,38324,671,138
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Hold'em Simulation ? 
1,236,283,488 trials (Exhaustive)
HandEquityWinsTies
As4h51.62%599,910,99076,399,193
60%48.38%559,973,30576,399,193
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Hold'em Simulation ? 
792,796,752 trials (Exhaustive)
HandEquityWinsTies
As4h46.90%335,079,88173,445,346
40%53.10%384,271,52573,445,346

Wednesday, May 20, 2015

o/8 call

Down to three in an o/8 SNG I got three bet by a tight aggressive player.








I have As7s3d5c.  I'm getting just over 1.25:1 so I need around 44% equity to make the call.

My opponents stats were tight aggressive.  Something like 25/17.  This was his first three bet but this stats are over an insignificant sample size (15 hands). Still they paint a picture of my opponent as tight and aggressive.

vs a 15% shoving range I have just about enough odds to call (source, propokertools o/8 simulator)

As7s3d5c44.80%161,466249,22725,021166,54653,268
15%55.20%230,839325,75225,02192,62953,26

vs a 10% shoving range


As7s3d5c43.57%154,082249,32820,869156,28353,242
10%56.43%237,156329,80320,869103,09053,242
vs 5%
As7s3d5c41.38%145,071238,75313,877156,86346,088
5%58.62%252,516347,37013,877107,99046,088

I am the short stack and kind of need to make a move.  I think over all it is close but perhaps slightly too loose.  Not surprisingly my opponent had A2j5 and held up.  Le sigh.

nash review 44


Plugging the preceding situation into my handy nash calculator it tells me to shove and this was my decision in game (no one called).  There are only four players behind me, since one is sitting out, but I do have around 20x the BB and there is only one short stack behind me so I do not think this is cut and dried.  One benefit of shoving is that it prevents someone from reraising three betting me.  I certainly do not want a hand like 98s to three bet me to 1500 and then be getting just under 2:1 if I shove, unless of course they are three bet folding. There is 600 to win immediately, or 1/8th of my stack and I likely have the best hand most of the time. Also my opponents can and perhaps should fold 55-99 to my shove.  The calculator suggests this :
5.9%, 88+ AJs+ AQo+
as a calling range for the player immediately after me in the CO.  I excluded the high jack from the simulation since he is sitting out.  One advantage to raise folding is that I can get away from the hand if it goes raise, reraise behind me, as this will make it pretty likely (though not a lock) that someone behind me has a bigger pair, although with only four people left to act this scenario is somewhat unlikely. 

I'm not sure what the cut off is for push / fold decisions, in terms of BB's in your stack.  My 19 bb stack looks somewhat smaller if you adjust for antes (12BB stack adjusted). My guess is that this is right on the border of where we can play push fold and where we should simply open for 2x. The tournament is also a knockout, so there is a premium for eliminating players, but I do not think that is a significant factor in this particular situation, with only one player shorter than me still to act. It would typically suggest slightly looser play vs stacks which are shorter than you.

The following chart from Wizard Of Odds gives the probability of a pair being beaten
http://wizardofodds.com/ask-the-wizard/texas-hold-em/probability-pairs/

Probability Pair Beaten by Higher Pair

PAIR2 PL.3 PL.4 PL.5 PL.6 PL.7 PL.8 PL.9 PL.10 PL.
KK0.49%0.977%1.462%1.945%2.425%2.903%3.379%3.852%4.323%
QQ0.98%1.95%2.91%3.861%4.803%5.735%6.659%7.573%8.479%
JJ1.469%2.917%4.344%5.749%7.134%8.499%9.843%11.168%12.473%
TT1.959%3.88%5.763%7.609%9.42%11.194%12.934%14.64%16.312%
992.449%4.838%7.168%9.442%11.66%13.823%15.934%17.992%20.001%
882.939%5.791%8.56%11.247%13.855%16.387%18.844%21.229%23.544%
773.429%6.74%9.937%13.025%16.007%18.887%21.668%24.353%26.947%
663.918%7.683%11.301%14.776%18.115%21.324%24.407%27.369%30.215%
554.408%8.622%12.65%16.501%20.181%23.7%27.063%30.279%33.352%
444.898%9.556%13.986%18.199%22.205%26.016%29.64%33.086%36.363%
335.388%10.485%15.308%19.871%24.188%28.273%32.137%35.794%39.253%
225.878%11.41%16.617%21.517%26.13%30.472%34.559%38.405%42.025%



13.986% is the number for our situation, 44 beaten by 4 players.  That makes us a 6:1 favourite to take down the pot and a 1:6 underdog to lose 60% of our stack (our opponent has a 60% edge on us as an 80:20 favourite).  Actually that's slightly facile analysis, we also have a 20% share of the current pot, so 60% of our stack but gain 100 from the pot.   So 1 time in 6 we lose roughly 3k (slightly less) and 5 times in 6 we win 600.  So it's break evenish.  Also 1 time in 4 we lose less, vs the sb.  and 55-88 might fold.  

So shoving is almost certainly +EV.  But what about raise folding or raise getting it in?  This is a more complicated analysis.  If we raise fold, we might get bluffed, or might induce a hand like 8s9s which actually has us beat 52.75% : 47.25%  to play.  There is also a chance a might three bet fold vs us, a real coup but a fairly unlikely scenario at these stack sizes.  One nice approach to taking a minimum raise with this hand is that we can take the same approach with bigger pairs, which we would like.  The strength of the nash approach, that you will take it down frequently, becomes a problem when you have a stronger hand like AA. We should take the same approach with AA as we do with 44, whatever we decide, lest we leave ourselves exploitable to our observant opponents. Even if this consideration is lesser in our present scenario it is important to build a consistent strategy for other games where this consideration becomes predominant.  We need to build healthy poker habits now.

Our stack size does seem slightly too large for the nash approach.  I'm not sure if there is a hard and fast rule for these scenarios.  Certainly 10x the BB or less qualifies and 20x the BB seems to large.  In between perhaps there is a grey area. This is a regular tournament, not a turbo, and that urges a slightly more patient approach.  We could also raise call vs sb and raise fold vs the other players, or raise fold vs co but raise get it in vs other players, especially BB, who has some incentive to push (no players behind him and money already in the pot). I suspect it may be better to simply shove at this stack size and this position but that any deeper and I must abandon Nash but I am certainly unsure of this conclusion.

Sunday, May 17, 2015

QJo UTG in 51 hyper turbo.


I encountered the above situation earlier today and felt it was a close decision.  Plugging the numbers into the pushbot calculator at holdemresources.net it told me to push the following range :
16.9%, 55+ A3s+ A9o+ K9s+ KTo+ QTs+
So my on the spot analysis was correct, this is a very close decision but apparently just shy of the proper hand to push in this situation with these stacks and I did manage to find the fold on the felt.  

an overly tight fold


The above situation confronted me in a tournament yesterday and as you can see from the fact that my cards are grayed out, I folded.  In retrospect I think this was a slight mistake. First of all, the preflop raiser is simply opening.  When I three bet all in he may very well fold. While his stats indicate he is tight that is over a very small sample. A lot of the hands he would be flipping with me could very well fold to my reraise (a tremendous coup for myself) and I am losing only to TT, JJ, QQ, KK or AA (around 2.2% of hands).  So only around 8.514% of the time will and of the people acting after me wake up with a hand that has me crushed.  I estimate I have the initial raiser beat probably around 80% of the time as well. And both the preflop raiser (especially him) but also anyone behind me could call with a hand that I have beaten. In retrospect this is a clear reraise jam.

Saturday, May 16, 2015

54hh in the BB

A situation arose yesterday when I was on the big blind with 54hh in the $11 NL $4k gtd tournament. The CO minraised and the Button called. So it's on me,getting just under 7:1 with 54hh. Should I call? After putting in the 1200 the CO had 20k, Button had 9,200 and I had 20k.
Blinds are 300/600.

I'm going to be out of position throughout the hand and I have both implied odds and reverse implied odds to consider. Should I call? If I do call what is my general post flop approach? One idea might be to check raise gin flops and perhaps check call if I flop a weak but possibly best made hand or a weak draw. I'm in good position to check raise; bad absolute position but good relative position. There is a decent chance that I am not dominated and will have wheel type flops to myself. And I'm getting a very good price from the pot. But I'm out of position and have two wheel cards.

Opponents stats are :

0/0/0/0 over 12 hands (CO)
25/9/3.0/3.3 over 87 hands.

VPIP/PFR/AGG factor/3 bet.

Limited sample size so they don't tell us too much but they do begin to paint a picture of two TAG opponents.  I've posted this situation on 2+2 also.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/23/small-stakes-mtt/54hh-bb-1532593/#post46960015

Wednesday, May 13, 2015

aces full in the muck

This hand illustrates an important principle, which is that in Pot Limit Omaha you should not be three betting a lot out of position. Actually my decision to flat here is not obviously the right play.  I could three bet. Three betting is a viable approach, perhaps continuing on disconnected boards as well as 'good' flops. If I three bet my opponent can four bet, which would be an incredible result since I would then be able to get more than half my stack in preflop.  I'm also going to kick player 4 out of the pot most likely.  Another argument for three betting is effective stack sizes are 80 bb deep, so somewhat shallow.  And my opponent is in steal position, so he could easily have a weak hand or not put me on aces when I three bet.  But the main problem my hand has, and the reason why I flat, is because for the rest of the hand I will talk first. This puts me at a severe disadvantage, so I flat, in the vain hope that Player 4 three bets (they never do), or, I could flop something huge.

I decide to take over the initiative on the flop. Heads up I would check raise here but three way, with the player with the initiative last to act I prefer to lead out, to ensure that no one can pot control this flop.  Mostly I am targeting a ten with my bet since a flush draw generally will not peel with a paired board.  Since this is a lockdown board there is no need to bet too much.  In fact just under half pot might be too much.  1/3rd might be better.  I generally bet 1/2 pot or 2/3rds pot as a matter of style, depending on the board, but if I raise I typically raise full pot.  When my opponent calls I assume he's got a ten.  A flush draw is possible as well or a full house or quads.  He could even have an inside wrap, theoretically.

 There might be merit to checking the turn.  It could be difficult for Txxx to continue, fearing the possibility that I have a full house or a ten with a better kicker and some of his kickers tied.  Or a ten with a flush and some of his kickers tied.  On the other hand if he was drawing to a flush it's unlikely that he would be folding it on this street and of course I want to increase the amount of money in the pot.  A check raise would allow me to play for stacks whereas continuing to half pot will not. But a flush might fold to a check raise while planning to call turn and river if I simply continue to bet.  In the long run it really doesn't matter how you play rare hands like aces full, since they are so infrequent.
 
The river is the only bad card in the deck (the other ten presumably being in his hand).  My opponent's flop play pegs him for a ten, so I can fold.  If he is turning a flush into a bluff to try to get a higher flush to fold then props to him.  Most likely I am beat.